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 Subject :Ubiquiti Nanostation LOCO M2.. 2013-04-20- 10:04:54 
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Are the Ubiquiti Nanostation LOCO M2 compatible with the mesh firmware?  What about the Bullet M?

From what I read, seems like maybe it's not supported yet, but will be soon?



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 Subject :Re:Ubiquiti Nanostation LOCO M2.. 2013-05-07- 14:45:02 
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I too request compatible firm ware be built. A large group of hams here in the bay area would like to build up a mesh network, my area is saturated with ch1- 14 traffic, The Ubiquity nano station m2, bullet m2, and even the M3 series, offers the frequency agility. Can Firmware be builT!!!! 73 kj6dzb Mathison
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 Subject :Re:Ubiquiti Nanostation LOCO M2.. 2013-05-07- 17:04:46 
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Latest word is that there will be a FW update around June (see the news/main page).


In that update, lotsa things will change.

It will work on WRT's as usual, with the GUI setup and all.

An other thing, for those wanting to work on other hardware, you will be able to use the FW on other hardware, and still mesh up to WRT's. etc, but it will need to be manually setup for anything other than a WRT.

Then in a subsequent release down the road, there should be the easy GUI support for the other hardware.

KTF

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 Subject :Re:Ubiquiti Nanostation LOCO M2.. 2013-05-07- 18:19:28 
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Im ready to test FW. How much of the Hsmm Gui is missing? http://downloads.openwrt.org/attitude_adjustment/12.09/ar71xx/generic/
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 Subject :Re:Ubiquiti Nanostation LOCO M2.. 2013-05-08- 17:45:22 
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Disclaimer: I'm not on the development team, so this may not be exactly correct. 

I believe Ubiquiti won't talk to HSMM at all due to some of the software components being incompatible.  It's a bug in the open source components used in HSMM.  The processor in the Ubiquiti devices won't run the same software in the WRT-54G and interoperate.

In order to connect a router (or computer) to the current HSMM, you have to load and configure OpenWRT, OLSR, and a few other things.  With the current HSMM software, you CAN connect some other kinds of wifi devices to an HSMM node and communicate.  Because of the software bugs in some of the open source components we use, this fails with Ubiquiti and many other kinds of equipment.   It's a "big endian" problem if that means anything to you.

The Broadband-HamnetV1 should remove or fix these particular bad components.

After that, any sufficiently capable router or network device can connect to Broadband-Hamnet if you can figure out how to load and configure OpenWRT, OLSR, and any other pieces.  Ubiquiti should work, but YOU have to figure out how to do the configuration yourself.  It's not "easy," but a few people have figured out how to do it already.

HSMM and Broadband-Hamnet do the hard part of this for you on WRT54G routers. 

Hopefully, in the future, we will produce an automatic configuration process for Ubiquiti that's as simple to use as the current WRT54G process.  The same sort of tools for other routers/hardware may follow.  This will probably not be in the first release of Broadband-Hamnet.

Other than the fact that some hardware is not compatible with HSMM, there is nothing preventing anyone from writing their own process to connect XYZ model 1234 router to the current HSMM.   When Broadband-Hamnet is released, the list of compatible hardware will grow immediately. 

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 Subject :Re:Ubiquiti Nanostation LOCO M2.. 2013-05-08- 17:56:51 
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Close enough Mickey :-)

And this should be out in June for the manual-on-other-hardware, then whenever Dave can tear himself away from that J-O-B to do fun stuff and rework it again to make all hardware GUI compatible and easy again,

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 Subject :Re:Ubiquiti Nanostation LOCO M2.. 2013-05-16- 04:14:44 
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hi guys, total noob here. myself and a couple of buddies want to use ubiquity gear to build a mesh in the lodi and galt ca. but we want to be compatible with everyone else. if we wait till the release of broadband hamnet, will we be able to be compatible shortly thereafter? no equipment has been purchased for this project yet. still in the dreaming about phase - thanks tom
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 Subject :Re:Ubiquiti Nanostation LOCO M2.. 2013-05-17- 00:42:12 
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You can set up your own Ubiquiti mesh system right now and the systems will work right now.  They just won't talk to HSMM-MESH systems until the new BH is released and loaded on the WRT54G routers. 

You'll have to figure out how to load OpenWRT, OLSR, and configure it to be compatible. 

For that matter, you can probably make a BH compatible system on anything that will run OpenWrt, like Raspberry Pi, laptops, regular PCs, smartphones, etc.

You'll still have to do all this configuration work yourself once BH is released if you're loading anything other than WRT-54G.  HSMM-MESH is mostly a preconfigured load of the software needed to do an OpenWrt/OLSR setup on WRT-54G along with some nice "wrappers," configuration tools, etc.

Presumably some people will figure out the Ubiquity configuration for BH, and publish it, but you'll still have to do a lot of the work yourself to load and configure it.  We may have a "pretty, easy, bundle" for Ubiquiti later, but for now, it's going to be much more complicated than loading HSMM-MESH on a WRT-54G. 

Depending on your hardware choice, and how many others have worked on it and documented it, there will be a LARGE variation in the amount of work and skills needed to make a particular device BH compatible.

By the way, why do you want Ubiquiti?  Yes, the package is pretty, but other than the packaging, it doesn't really have that much advantage over a WRT-54G.  

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 Subject :Re:Ubiquiti Nanostation LOCO M2.. 2013-05-17- 12:21:24 
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Thanks mickey for the reply. On of the fellows had owned a small ISP and has plenty of wifi experience. He uses several wrt54g units now and i think he just wants to play with something new. He just ebayed a pair of 100mw bullets. The 1 watt frequency agile bullets look rather appealing. No? Another fellow in the club, just bought a pair of the 5.8 ghz units with the dishes. So that's what they're playing with now. Emphasis on playing. The club has access to a couple of locations and we're dreaming about a group purchase and build. Emphasis on dreaming. I would like to see whatever the club does for access points be compatible with the hsmm-mesh network. I've been lurking here for a few months and browsing the net. I already bought a wrt54g. I plan on getting another, flashing them and playing. Although I'm not a networking kind of guy, I'm sure I be able to make them work. Your group's documentation looks great. I plan on installing one of them on my house. I have the housing and hardware so just looking at antenna options now. Another for portable/mobile operation. Nearest mesh node is about 30 miles away, ki6fen, but i in work in Sacramento. I've babbled enough 73 Tom
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 Subject :Ubiquiti Nanostation LOCO M2.. 2013-05-18- 00:08:11 
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Thanks.  I can't take credit for any of the documentation.  That's from the developers, although I do want to write some "Broadband-Hamnet for newbies" guides once the new software is finalized.   The guys who know what they're doing are so far up the experience curve from me that a bit of a description from a relative dummy might help a lot of the folks without that kind of experience. 

Also, don't forget the Wireless Networking book that has a lot of info on wireless networking in general.



[WA6OSX 2013-05-17- 12:21:24]:

Your group's documentation looks great.

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 Subject :Re:Ubiquiti Nanostation LOCO M2.. 2013-05-18- 10:28:23 
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I figured that what you described was the case. Thanks for the explanation!!! I on the other hand have equipment in operation, and standing by. I will wait for the compatibility problem to be fixed, there are others that may still use wrt's in the ism band. I would like to request if possible the spectrum analyzer function to still available in the hsmm-mesh firmware. 73 Mathison
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 Subject :Re:Ubiquiti Nanostation LOCO M2.. 2013-11-13- 04:00:31 
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Now that's the BHv1 is released, has anyone succesfully setted up any OpenWRT device manually (i.e. Ubiquiti equipment)???
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 Subject :Re:Re:Ubiquiti Nanostation LOCO M2.. 2013-11-14- 00:40:30 
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When you said: "...OpenWRT, OLSR, and any other pieces..." is there a way to know what's inside the "other pieces" ???

Thanks!



[wx5u 2013-05-08- 17:45:22]:

Disclaimer: I'm not on the development team, so this may not be exactly correct. 

I believe Ubiquiti won't talk to HSMM at all due to some of the software components being incompatible.  It's a bug in the open source components used in HSMM.  The processor in the Ubiquiti devices won't run the same software in the WRT-54G and interoperate.

In order to connect a router (or computer) to the current HSMM, you have to load and configure OpenWRT, OLSR, and a few other things.  With the current HSMM software, you CAN connect some other kinds of wifi devices to an HSMM node and communicate.  Because of the software bugs in some of the open source components we use, this fails with Ubiquiti and many other kinds of equipment.   It's a "big endian" problem if that means anything to you.

The Broadband-HamnetV1 should remove or fix these particular bad components.

After that, any sufficiently capable router or network device can connect to Broadband-Hamnet if you can figure out how to load and configure OpenWRT, OLSR, and any other pieces.  Ubiquiti should work, but YOU have to figure out how to do the configuration yourself.  It's not "easy," but a few people have figured out how to do it already.

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 Subject :Re:Ubiquiti Nanostation LOCO M2.. 2013-11-16- 17:21:40 
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I found the NW-mesh group that has instructions on how to install the olsrd on ubiquity equipment. Is any one got plans on up daying to the olsrd 0.6.6.1 ? As seen in the Hsmm-pi project? the NW-mesh group provides a how to on installing olsrd on open wrt. 73 kj6dzb
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 Subject :Ubiquiti Nanostation LOCO M2.. 2013-11-22- 23:05:17 
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Sorry for the slow response. 

I'm not up to date on the deep technical details of that.  I do know several people have figured that out for Ubiquiti and other hardware, but I don't know if they started with the BBHN source or what.

The folks working on Ubiquiti have made an announcement on the main BBHN page or look here: http://hsmm-mesh.org/documentation/179-ubiquiti-support-now-in-beta-test



[IZ5FSA 2013-11-14- 00:40:30]:


When you said: "...OpenWRT, OLSR, and any other pieces..." is there a way to know what's inside the "other pieces" ???

Thanks!



[wx5u 2013-05-08- 17:45:22]:

Disclaimer: I'm not on the development team, so this may not be exactly correct. 

I believe Ubiquiti won't talk to HSMM at all due to some of the software components being incompatible.  It's a bug in the open source components used in HSMM.  The processor in the Ubiquiti devices won't run the same software in the WRT-54G and interoperate.

In order to connect a router (or computer) to the current HSMM, you have to load and configure OpenWRT, OLSR, and a few other things.  With the current HSMM software, you CAN connect some other kinds of wifi devices to an HSMM node and communicate.  Because of the software bugs in some of the open source components we use, this fails with Ubiquiti and many other kinds of equipment.   It's a "big endian" problem if that means anything to you.

The Broadband-HamnetV1 should remove or fix these particular bad components.

After that, any sufficiently capable router or network device can connect to Broadband-Hamnet if you can figure out how to load and configure OpenWRT, OLSR, and any other pieces.  Ubiquiti should work, but YOU have to figure out how to do the configuration yourself.  It's not "easy," but a few people have figured out how to do it already.


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