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Subject :Reset router to default password..
2013-07-28- 09:03:07
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Subject :Re:Reset router to default password..
2013-07-29- 05:53:26
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The button doesn't reset the password on HSMM routers. I think even the 30/30/30 "super" reset doesn't do that. I presume this is part of the OpenWRT system design. Corrections/confirmation welcome. Especially if someone has an easier reset process.
The TFTP installation will work, but it's a bit tricky, and maybe even a little dangerous in terms of bricking your router.
Look for "Installing Firmware with TFTP" here. Read the instructions carefully. There may be a fairly short window to start the download after you reset the router. You have to set your PC up to manually set its IP address. Otherwise, the autoconfig stuff will still be screwing around trying to autoconfig during the window to reflash the router. It's easier if you're running Linux and can use Dave's shell script, but it should be possible under windows if you can get the timing and machine config right.
The solution to use a switch can also help with the timing vs. autoconfig process.
[KB2NEA 2013-07-28- 09:03:07]: I can't remember my password on one of my nodes. Can I physically reset it to the default password? I tried holding down the reset button on the back of the router for 10 seconds but can't get in with root/hsmm still.
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Subject :Re:Reset router to default password..
2013-07-29- 06:56:55
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Subject :Re:Reset router to default password..
2013-07-29- 08:23:49
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I never did get the fail safe mode to work on my bricked router. I never got the "root@(none)$" prompt.
However, a 30-30-30 reset restored it back to where it was right after flashing with the hsmm-mwsh firmware. I went back to the directions for what to do after the flash and went on from there.
The password was reset to "hsmm" and the IP address was 172.27.0.1:8080. I had to set the node name and new password. |
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Subject :Re:Re:Reset router to default password..
2013-07-29- 08:44:55
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I have a vague recollection of there being some gotcha on 30/30/30 resets. It may have been that it bricks certain versions of the router. I think I saw this mentioned on some of the DDWRT web pages. Sorry I don't have a definitive reference, but be warned. I may try to see if I can Google it up later. Of course, just because it's posted somewhere doesn't mean it's true.
[KG1L 2013-07-29- 08:23:49]: I never did get the fail safe mode to work on my bricked router. I never got the "root@(none)$" prompt.
However, a 30-30-30 reset restored it back to where it was right after flashing with the hsmm-mwsh firmware. I went back to the directions for what to do after the flash and went on from there.
The password was reset to "hsmm" and the IP address was 172.27.0.1:8080. I had to set the node name and new password. |
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Subject :Re:Reset router to default password..
2013-08-01- 00:41:02
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Here's the 30/30/30 reset warning I found:
"Note: WRT54GS v1.1, GS v2, and GS2.1 models can brick after a hard reset no matter how it is done." From the DD-WRT "Peacock" thread.
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Subject :Re:Reset router to default password..
2013-08-01- 01:58:34
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This one's a GS v4. Haven't had time to try these methods yet. |
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Subject :Re:Reset router to default password..
2013-08-03- 04:02:55
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OK really weird. its a WRT54GS v4. 30/30/30 reset worked ostensibly.
That is, HSMM firmware is set back to NOCALL and shows initial setup screen. However when I hit SETUP and enter u: root / p: hsmm it fails. How is that possible?? |
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Subject :Re:Reset router to default password..
2013-08-03- 09:59:52
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This is because your callsign is (was, prior to v1.0.0) stored in NVRAM.
The nodename and password are stored in files in flash memory.
The 30/30/30 resets NVRAM but does not do a selective erase on flash,
if it did, how it know what to wipe out??? :) |
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Subject :Re:Re:Reset router to default password..
2013-08-03- 10:36:43
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Does that mean 30/30/30 can't be used to reset a lost password? What's the distinction between "callsign" and "nodename?" I don't recall ever entering a callsign other than as part of the nodename.
[ae5ae 2013-08-03- 09:59:52]: This is because your callsign is (was, prior to v1.0.0) stored in NVRAM.
The nodename and password are stored in files in flash memory.
The 30/30/30 resets NVRAM but does not do a selective erase on flash,
if it did, how it know what to wipe out??? :) |
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Subject :Re:Reset router to default password..
2013-08-03- 12:43:36
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My apologies, I misspoke/mistyped. :)
Just the nodename is stored in NVRAM and we highly recommend
that it contain your callsign. I s'pose I was thinking about
something else that requested just the callsign -- maybe a
much earlier version of the firmware. Sorry. |
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Subject :Reset router to default password..
2013-08-04- 06:51:40
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So, do we have a conclusion whether 30/30/30 should reset the password? I'm trying to make a FAQ about password reset/unbricking.
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Subject :Re:Reset router to default password..
2013-08-04- 12:47:35
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As I said before, the password for the web interface is stored in a file in flash memory so, unless you wipe out the flash or overwrite it, your password will stay the same. I was mixed up about only the callsign/nodename. I just checked on the OpenWrt forum website and the 30/30/30 has no effect with OpenWrt. See the article here: https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=34269 It works with DD-WRT but OpenWrt (and the BBHN) firmware is not setup to handle the reset button by default except for the failsafe mode that is discussed in the BBHN User Document for recovering a forgotten password. OK?? |
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Subject :Re:Reset router to default password..
2013-08-04- 14:54:35
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I don't have a conclusion now because... apparently the password was HSMM all caps? Is that the default?
If so, then either the 30/30/30 worked, or I just imagined changing the password on this node.
I'll never know I guess... |
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Subject :Re:Reset router to default password..
2013-08-04- 15:12:57
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Per all of our instructions, the default password just after you've done a complete load of the firmware is 'hsmm' -- all lowercase. Except for patches, all of the firmware obliterate FLASH memory so passwords can NOT be kept over a firmware load. |
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Subject :Reset router to default password..
2013-08-04- 15:53:33
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Well, we have one who says 30/30/30 resets the password, one who says not. Maybe it varies on firmware version or something. I'll leave 30/30/30 as questionable in the writeup until I can do some testing on the final version of bbhn. There are reports 30/30/30 bricks some GS routers, so it's risky anyway.
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Subject :Re:Reset router to default password..
2013-11-05- 08:40:59
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On my routers [2] i forgot the password and used the telnet "fail safe" method to change them. I wrote down the password on the router. Reread all the instructions and made sure i followed all the instructions to make sure the password changes were saves.
For a couple months the passwords stayed what i changed them to. Now i try to log onto them after letting them sit a while and I cant log in. So i telnet into the router and change it back. I can log on to one router now. The other is already mounted as i had no need to change any of their settings.
Any one else heard of a similar situation?
1>Could the onboard files get corrupted over time so that the password gets degraded?
2>I suppose i can't rule out getting hacked. Highly unlikely though as the second routher for my go kit has been powered off for the last 4-5 weeks. |
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Subject :Re:Reset router to default password..
2014-08-28- 19:32:29
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I have a version 2 WRT54G and after initially setting the password, I am no longer able to access the setup tab. I know for sure what password I used because I typed it into Notepad before copy/pasting it into the password field. That password does not work and neither does "hsmm". I attempted the 30/30/30 reset with no luck and I attempted to place it in failsafe mode via telnet with no luck. I wonder if the password that I used (a "correct horse battery staple" format passphrase) might have exceeded the maximum allowable characters. If that's the case, it could have been truncated or it could have been mangled irretrievably in the hashing process. Any ideas? The node is ready for use but there is no way for me to change any settings.
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